Okay so VRchat plus users, people who optionally pay vrchat to support the devs in making the game better, dont get to be some of the first people to test verification? It just seems kinda messed up that these supporters are the reason age verification is being able to happen in the first place and they dont even get to be part of the first ones to try it just seems unfair.
If it helps, every person I’ve seen verified is also a VRC+ subscriber.
VRChats idea here is to actually test something before unleashing it onto the platform full scale.
When it comes down to it, I think they’d be smart to limit the age verification to active or maybe even previously active VRC+ subscribers. Age verification is a service that costs money and I’d prefer the source of that to be the users, and not some sort of corporate whatever.
It’s more useful for testing to have groups get it first since thats partly the entire point of it. They also had a very limited number of slots too, so making sure the verifications are actually going to the people they need to test it is good.
VRC+ users have gotten a ton of stuff lately between prints, stickers, sharing, etc. So I don’t think anyone is losing out here.
Small addition: As my opinion, not only vrc+ subs support the devs, there are too much supporters that helps in other ways like making avatars, worlds, people that make PRs on the github, some of the most known trusted users of some communities, content creators, etc.
I think for test this things they should have groups based on the time played in the last year/month, contributions, avatars, trust level (idk if its only trusted user or have more internally for that tests like a number value), and some other things. That can helps because you can enable a feature for a group that you know they will use it, like a big sdk update beta for avatar creators, new VRChat Creator Companion rewrite in the future for a specific group, or just the verification for people that you know they will use it.
Im not putting my card online and plus IM BROKE I dont get paid enough to live in this damn country so basically fuck me for trying to be happy in my adult life cant do anything while broke
It’s through Steam’s (or Meta’s) payment system which is secure to today’s security standards, this isn’t the 90s where there was little to no security like there is today.
It’s also just a one time purchase of $10, you don’t have to keep subbing every month to keep your age verification.
My argument is why when age verification is free on other platforms even vrc’s rival chillout vr commented on this its shouldn’t ever cost money and i refuse to give into there greed if some companies like Microsoft are willing to loose a little money to make their customers happy so can vrc
Chillout VR from what I know doesn’t actually use ID verification, their highest form of “verifying” someone is an adult is an extra DLC that costs money. That is not real verification.
Also VRChat isn’t Microsoft??? You understand Microsoft makes billions a year and thats why they can afford to spend money on that type of thing right. Do you think VRChat is some multi-billion dollar company?..
VRChat uses a third party Persona to verify IDs, Persona charges per ID verification, it costs VRChat money to verify your ID.
It also costs money to pay people to continue developing the game, pay for servers, pay for people to maintain those servers. It’s not greed, it’s doing what they can to survive so you can keep enjoying the platform.
If you don’t like it, that’s the fault of how society’s economics work, not VRChat being affected by it.
If you’d like that to change, go start a revolution or something.
Its not like vrc makes a ton of money off of vrc+ it won’t kill them to make age verification I don’t care if persona costs them money to verify there’s all ready a lot of people meat riding vrc + anyways an as for a revolution I know a lot of people who don’t like the fact it costs money to age verify like a large TikTok creator I know called rebeldafoxx he thinks its stupid to and people wonder why capitalism is failing us because of all this unchecked greed that goes around
Its not like vrc makes a ton of money off of vrc+
which… is why they need people to buy it. which is why they put age verification behind it? to offset the cost?
you understand that servers alone are expensive right? especially for a game thats as network complex as VRChat? Having to constantly send every bit of data from voice chat to you moving your hands and head over servers? On top of thousands of other people?
Please do not make me have to do the research for you to explain why it has to be this way. VRChat could absolutely be greedy and bar stuff like avatar uploading behind a paywall, but they’re not, and instead providing extra, NEW generally non-essential features with VRC+, which I’d say is honestly the opposite of greedy. Giving incentives to users to support the survival platform they use generally completely for free otherwise is not greed.
Genuinely, you do not need age verification to use VRChat, it’s not absolutely essential. Having it behind VRC+ also gives an extra wall a kid would have to bypass to try and fake verification on top of Persona. Instead of Chillout’s honestly irresponsible non-verification.