# Vrchat crashing! Is it just me?

**URL:** <https://ask.vrchat.com/t/vrchat-crashing-is-it-just-me/27873>\
**Category:** Help!\
**Created:** [November 14, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/vrchat-crashing-is-it-just-me/27873 "2024-11-14T13:01:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Skullixer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/skullixer/32/27878_2.png) [@Skullixer](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Skullixer)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/vrchat-crashing-is-it-just-me/27873/1 "2024-11-14T13:01:03Z")

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My computer crashes in lobbies of 20+ people?! _sometimes even less_🙃

I used to think my computer was big game with the specs of:

CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i9-10850K CPU  
Ram: 32.0 GB (31.9 GB usable)  
Motherboard: TUF GAMING z590-plus  
GPU: Geforce RTX 3080

🥲 Like is this not good enough? Or is everyone I’m playing with housing a monster truck of a pc on their desk???

I’ll take any optimization tips, please 🤞

 ![flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/original/3X/b/4/b4ec057e1e6e8f17d14258e83f0a2beaba31d478.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/vrchat-crashing-is-it-just-me/27873/2 "2024-11-14T14:06:09Z")

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Every time VRChat has been crash happy, windows update has touched my gpu drivers

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**Author:** ![tupper](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/tupper/32/47486_2.png) [@tupper](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/tupper)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/vrchat-crashing-is-it-just-me/27873/3 "2024-11-14T18:56:53Z")

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Those specs are good enough to run VRChat for sure. You might have problems with extremely heavy Very Poor avatars or in very full instances (60+), but everyone has problems with those, even people with monster truck PCs 😆

Make sure your drivers are up to date – some recent nVidia drivers have been somewhat unstable.

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**Author:** ![Skullixer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/skullixer/32/27878_2.png) [@Skullixer](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Skullixer)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/vrchat-crashing-is-it-just-me/27873/4 "2024-11-14T23:18:38Z")

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I’ll give it a look, thanks!