# Controllers stuck in Open-hand position & cant do gestures (Happens in any avatar) (FIXED)

**URL:** <https://ask.vrchat.com/t/controllers-stuck-in-open-hand-position-cant-do-gestures-happens-in-any-avatar-fixed/14934>\
**Category:** Help!\
**Tags:** bug\
**Created:** [November 15, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/controllers-stuck-in-open-hand-position-cant-do-gestures-happens-in-any-avatar-fixed/14934 "2022-11-15T02:52:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![chacon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/chacon/32/14904_2.png) [@chacon](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/chacon)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/controllers-stuck-in-open-hand-position-cant-do-gestures-happens-in-any-avatar-fixed/14934/1 "2022-11-15T02:52:26Z")

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Has anyone else recently, if at all, had problems with their Valve Index controllers not working in VRChat? Because my controllers are stuck in the open-hand position no matter what I do. The only thing I can do is move my thumbs, but nothing else works. When I play other games, my controllers work perfectly fine, my hands will open and close & I can do gestures. Yet when I go to VRChat I can’t do anything.

I’ve already checked in-game controls, checked SteamVR controls, they’re both fine & unchanged. I have tried debugging the game, tried clearing the cache, and even went as far as to uninstall VRChat and SteamVR to try and fix the problem… nothing works & I am still stuck in the open-hand position. I know it has to be something with the game itself, but I can’t figure out what it is

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**Author:** ![Jessie\_Trencher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/jessie_trencher/32/15629_2.png) [@Jessie\_Trencher](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Jessie_Trencher)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/controllers-stuck-in-open-hand-position-cant-do-gestures-happens-in-any-avatar-fixed/14934/2 "2023-01-08T00:15:57Z")

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same issue how to fix tho??

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**Author:** ![Ipe\_Husky](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/ipe_husky/32/19127_2.png) [@Ipe\_Husky](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Ipe_Husky)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/controllers-stuck-in-open-hand-position-cant-do-gestures-happens-in-any-avatar-fixed/14934/3 "2024-03-20T22:02:03Z")

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go into your radial menu under options and make sure expressions are turned on. That fixed it for me.