# Can't make a group at all in the website

**URL:** <https://ask.vrchat.com/t/cant-make-a-group-at-all-in-the-website/41480>\
**Category:** Help!\
**Tags:** vrchat-groups\
**Created:** [February 19, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/cant-make-a-group-at-all-in-the-website/41480 "2025-02-19T18:29:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![Fierce\_Twornin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/fierce_twornin/32/34135_2.png) [@Fierce\_Twornin](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Fierce_Twornin)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/cant-make-a-group-at-all-in-the-website/41480/1 "2025-02-19T18:29:14Z")

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its grayed out for me but it say that anyone can make a group without VRChat+

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**Author:** ![JessicaOnMain](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/jessicaonmain/32/16794_2.png) [@JessicaOnMain](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/JessicaOnMain)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/cant-make-a-group-at-all-in-the-website/41480/2 "2025-02-19T19:42:42Z")

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You might be misreading the site because creating a group is still locked behind VRC+: [Groups - VRChat Wiki](https://wiki.vrchat.com/wiki/Groups#Creating_a_group)