# Avatars and some worlds not loading randomly at times **URL:** \ **Category:** Help!\ **Created:** [December 12, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384 "2023-12-12T18:08:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/1 "2023-12-12T18:08:36Z")
Since last update, it looks like vr server going poop all of a sudden when it comes to downloading stuffs. then few minutes later it starts to dl again and etc. Usually have to restart game to try to fix it. Everything else is good, ping included, but for some reason, sometimes the game decides to not load stuffs and this is quite bothersome. Never happened before. This is quite disgusting. Reinstall, clean full cache done, nothing works. happens on vr and desktop. ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/2 "2023-12-13T02:47:21Z")
Ive been checking what the issue could be and… it seems that Vr chat is using another exe which is the usual Unitycrashhandler and is the culprit of the issue. The game also, because of it, can freeze upon exit. force close the task fixes everything… or not T\_T. It comes back if I check dl lots of stuffs now. never happened before. ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 3:04am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/3 "2023-12-13T03:04:47Z")
I always laugh wherever I get a unity crash screen when I close VRChat. I haven’t had to force kill anything for VRChat yet, but I have had to force close the unity editor a few times ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 6:24am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/4 "2023-12-17T06:24:47Z")
I sincerely have no idea whatr is happening, game literally dl things pretty fine, then sometimes it just doesnt even want to load av images at all, literally something blocking dls (sounds like game server and dl server is separated, because I have 0 lag and can play pretty fine) Unity crasher pops up every now and then out of nowhere too. Its like dl server are on a dial up sometimes and they be dying, its really annoying ---
**Author:** ![DarkSnakeX](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/darksnakex/32/21428_2.png) [@DarkSnakeX](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/DarkSnakeX)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/5 "2023-12-17T15:25:00Z")
I have the exact same problem, sometimes the worlds and avatars dont load or are stuck at 0% and maybe after a restart or waiting it finally works. Its so annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Ivanfesco](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/ivanfesco/32/21435_2.png) [@Ivanfesco](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Ivanfesco)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/7 "2023-12-18T00:05:08Z")
Having same issue as people above ---
**Author:** ![Ivanfesco](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/ivanfesco/32/21435_2.png) [@Ivanfesco](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Ivanfesco)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/8 "2023-12-18T00:28:12Z")
Here’s a screenshot of the issue, after a certain number of avatars, they will stop downloading and i’d have to clear cache again for it to restart. You can see all the people’s avatars at 0% downloading no matter the size ![OculusScreenshot1702858925](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/original/3X/9/a/9ade853b75520d7fde39ebca883b4d1402887f4f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 6:52am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/9 "2023-12-18T06:52:36Z")
> [@deletethrowaway23434](#): > > PV6, ran the game as administrator… absolutely nothing works and only thing someone mentioned in a Steam forum was that it fixed itself after some time. Feeling pretty desperate yep, nothing works. I unistalled, clear fully cache, change size and cache place, logout, restart, safe mode, etc… Nothing works. my net be fine, ping great and stable, can talk and play smoothly, but downloads (avatars and avatar images mostly) stops working sometimes. I personally think it has to do with something on the devs/third party’s end doing weird poop on us, and download server be wlaking with one foot, Usually happens in peak hours for me. Then it works fine again. They really need to check their shit ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/10 "2023-12-18T15:51:21Z")
> [@deletethrowaway23434](#): > > disabled IPV6, I have a suspicion that this advice made sense for a single month of VRChats existence. Hopefully you put it back. Compared to ten years ago, stuff actually can use ipv6 these days. It’s probably fine today, but there will eventually be a tipping point where disabiling ipv6 will kind of break internet address > [@deletethrowaway23434](#): > > ran the game as administrator… Danger here is that any file created while running as administrator is protected from pesky regular users, personally I’ve chosen to nuke VRChat from orbit over running as admin. > [@Endelu](#): > > I personally think it has to do with something on the devs/third party’s end doing weird poop on us, and download server be wlaking with one foot, Since VRChat is likely behind cloudflare for everything I’ve suggested cloudflare warp a few times. I haven’t searched these forums to see if anyone’s had success or not with that. So it’s quite possible that using cloudflare warp results in you being kidnapped by ninjas… ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/12 "2023-12-18T21:58:07Z")
> [@deletethrowaway23434](#): > > I know this is a relatively rare issue I don’t think you need the “relatively” qualifier, it is a rare issue from what I’ve seen. I have 70 friends on my VRChat friend list, one of them had this issue loading assets, I found a suggestion about cloudflare warp a month later, passed it along and they were back on PC the next day. I haven’t gotten any feedback so maybe they reinstall Windows lol > [@deletethrowaway23434](#): > > I really hope there is a fix other than reinstalling Windows Buy a Cheap ssd, install but don’t activate windows. Problem like this has two sources, - Something on computer - Something involve internet. From your router, through your ISP to cloudflare Maybe your router is somehow twenty years old and you’re exhausting a connection limit? I wouldn’t expect a game support to figure that out in a reasonable amount of time… ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 7:19am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/13 "2023-12-19T07:19:16Z")
I personally think that has nothing to do with it. It is indeed a rare issue. Oddly I hear the prob happening usually outside US maybe? Game was fine before, just happened on new update (updates always have problems, this is a constant by now it seems) ssd or hd dont matter, the issue still the same. This looks like a loss of packages/connection and the server (or something around it) not being able to cope it out, going on dial up, while having good and stable conection on personal side. resuming: -stable ping/conection. -good hardware. -only vr chat gives problems. -appeared since last update. -can play fine, dl is the only problem, which seems to be separated from the rest. -0 help, nothing works. The problem is on their side, or on one of their third parties doing something weird. It feels like a firewall that decides to stop dl conection, resulting in an error on dl process and crash the whole sharing of packages. Or maybe the server expect 100 mbs conection and times out once in a while in peak hours because of it if you dont have it? I am no expert, however, but my idea is overall more realistic so far. > [@deletethrowaway23434](#): > > Please devs, look into this because the game as it is for whoever has this issue is literally unplayable What usually works for me, also not a permanent fix… is restarting pc or router. the problem, when happening, while have high chance of coming back once more. tThe issue is indeed really problematic and hurts the core of the app- Kill the unnityhandlecrasher from task too, nobody wants that shit running for nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/15 "2023-12-19T20:14:08Z")
Its freaking odd because anything could trigger the bug/error, from menu, av pedestals, avs, worlds, etc… Like anything that requires some downloading can randomly (but on specific times, when it happens it happen constantly, and “fix” itself later and everything is alright again) trigger the issue. I really think the problem is based on the dl server not coping with something due to it, but idk. Oh, and everytime it happens, Vr chat doesnt want to close itself and have to be forced to end the process, every time. There is definitely a bug here. Its imposible to dodge it when it happens as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![Ivanfesco](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/ivanfesco/32/21435_2.png) [@Ivanfesco](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Ivanfesco)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/17 "2023-12-20T02:42:18Z")
Agree with what @deletethrowaway23434 and @Endelu have described. Also responding to the “outside the us” thing, yes, I’m in Europe ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/18 "2023-12-20T16:23:47Z")
> [@deletethrowaway23434](#): > > Only thing I haven’t tried is that cloudfare thing but I’m not even sure how [https://1.1.1.1](https://1.1.1.1) has links to it, I haven’t needed it so I haven’t tried, but it’s got desktop client to run. I’m curious if you need a account or not ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/20 "2023-12-21T00:20:16Z")
Really? Four ones, throw a dot in between each one, and can’t load there? One dot one dot one dot one… If you can’t access that, I wonder if you’re somehow blocked from cloudflare, VRChat likely has the asset servers behind cloudflare ddos protection. ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/23 "2023-12-23T01:56:25Z")
I dont think its wise to try things that might cause more problems than it might not even fix… this is defo a problem on vr chat’s part that, somewhat, have been changed and give now issues outside of possibly US it seems? this still need to be adressed to found clear evidence of it. so we kinda booped i guess… ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/24 "2023-12-24T14:32:45Z")
Hmm, personally I’ve recently seen Finland, Thailand, and Australia users online. What about the website that you can log into? Do the thumbnails work? I think that a bug report should be filled, the client doesn’t seem to pick up on when it can’t access the asset servers. Recently I join a world and my avatar doesn’t load in 40% of the time. Like the avatar I was just wearing and it can’t load in. Rejoin the world just works for that. ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/25 "2023-12-24T14:54:12Z")
website have no issues at all, its only the client. What about EAC? Would EAC give issues server issues? Ive seen them online, but the few people that had this issue- and I know of- where not from US, all of em. If they didnt even responded to Mia ticket yet, and from what I heard, they usually don’t until ages later… I really dont know whats the best course of action when this problem happens. ---
**Author:** ![Foptop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/foptop/32/25086_2.png) [@Foptop](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Foptop)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/27 "2023-12-25T20:37:38Z")
You may have tried this already, but this sometimes helps me with weird issues… 1. Shut down PC and unplug it from the wall/outlet 2. Press the power button once 3. Wait a minute 4. Plug PC back into wall/outlet This helped me recently with the oculus software not wanting to work right on my PC. It may or may not work, but it’s worth a shot and doesn’t take too long. ---
**Author:** ![Endelu](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/endelu/32/20878_2.png) [@Endelu](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Endelu)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384/28 "2023-12-25T22:45:30Z")
its gettin worse on christmas, they really dont give a poop [Next page](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatars-and-some-worlds-not-loading-randomly-at-times/21384.md?page=2)