# Avatar list bugged - possible soft upload limit? **URL:** \ **Category:** Avatars\ **Tags:** avatar, bug, vrchat\ **Created:** [March 13, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061 "2025-03-13T21:38:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rump](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/rump/32/24462_2.png) [@Rump](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Rump)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061/1 "2025-03-13T21:38:04Z")
Hey gang, I was wondering, as of 2025 are there any limits to uploading avatars to your account? I’m a hobbyist avatar modder, and I’ve noticed the following issues as of today: - **Avatars seem to load slower** - **Toggles don’t always persist on avatar swap** _(even unchanged avatars that have worked for years)_ - **My avatar sorting (i.e. recently used) is scrambled and random** Has anyone else experienced this? I’ve been wondering if there’s a sort of “soft limit” of avatars before things get wonky? I noticed it after I uploaded my 89th avatar. I also wonder if it could be something else that I’m not considering. ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 2:19am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061/2 "2025-03-14T02:19:21Z")
> [@Rump](#): > > Toggles don’t always persist on avatar swap Only times I’ve had trouble with that are when I forget to have a parameter save > [@Rump](#): > > Avatars seem to load slower I have noticed that avatars load slower, especially getting hit with server processing. I think they reprocess avatars occasionally. ---
**Author:** ![Rump](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/rump/32/24462_2.png) [@Rump](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Rump)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 2:49am UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061/3 "2025-03-14T02:49:12Z")
Interesting - have you noticed anything with avatar sorting too? Mine doesn’t work at all right now. The toggles were also forgotten across all avatars I own, I wonder if it could have the reprocessing you’re mentioning ---
**Author:** ![docteh](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/docteh/32/12171_2.png) [@docteh](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/docteh)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061/4 "2025-03-14T16:35:38Z")
For toggles I’ve noticed that right below the button to clear cache (mostly pointless but it makes people feel like they clean something) is a button to delete local avatar settings, and then the last option is some sort of texture cache. So it kinda makes sense to clear the first and last, but not the middle… I have two PC friends that cleared cache and then unintentionally cleared all avatar settings. For the sort order I’ve noticed that the latest update is not just uploads, generating an imposter will bump an avatar to the top. Which is great except for the part where imposters can be generated automatically. My other complaint is that the sort order is used for different categories. Like the list of recently used should sort by last used. ---
**Author:** ![Rump](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/rump/32/24462_2.png) [@Rump](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Rump)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061/5 "2025-03-14T20:10:35Z")
None of those seem relevant as the cause right now unfortunately - though I appreciate the insight lol ---
**Author:** ![Blair\_NyX](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/blair_nyx/32/38426_2.png) [@Blair\_NyX](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Blair_NyX)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061/6 "2025-03-16T19:53:52Z")
answer to you first question yes there’s a soft limit Kanda in the since that you can only preload a certain amount of avatars and as far as you second question its answered in the last answer and the last is due to the imposters generating at random as previously stated but as far as how many avi’s you can have I’m currently on my 90 something one and i haven’t found the limit or even close yet I’m gusseing there isn’t one as ik some people have 1,000s of uploads ---
**Author:** ![Rump](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/vrchat/user_avatar/ask.vrchat.com/rump/32/24462_2.png) [@Rump](https://ask.vrchat.com/u/Rump)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-list-bugged-possible-soft-upload-limit/42061/7 "2025-03-17T22:16:57Z")
> [@Blair\_NyX](#): > > ik some people have 1,000s of uploads That’s absolutely bonkers (and good to know lol) > [@docteh](#): > > Which is great except for the part where imposters can be generated automatically. > [@Blair\_NyX](#): > > mposters generating at random as previously stated I had to look into imposters, I didn’t understand this in my first read of docteh’s response. Thanks to both of you for clearing that up. That would definitely explain why my list is scrambled! > [@Blair\_NyX](#): > > only preload a certain amount of avatars This might be the problem I’m running into. At first I thought I had an abnormally long retrieval time for pulling the avatars from the server, but when I compared with friends I wasn’t much different. I might have only started to notice it because my avatar cache may finally have hit a limit, so I’ve been pulling from the server more often. Thanks!